Sunday, October 19, 2008

famous music feuds

Some people seem to not understand how Contrived Conflict is used in marketing.

Heck, even brands do it within their own corporation: you create an "enemy" brand to compete with, which drives sales to both products.

Therefore, don't get your panties in a bunch over any "feuds" that your worshipful music idols may be having. You'll just get everybody laughing at you, and that's not the intent. You, most loyal and blindly obedient fan, are an innocent bystander.

In the Haliburton War, they call it "collateral damage" or "civilian casualties".

But even the most serious battles and heated conflicts, in music anyway, have an undercurrent of humor and capitalistic strategy to them.

Famous Music Rivalries,
Feuds, and Conflicts

* Metallica vs. Megadeth

* Diana Ross vs. Mary Wilson

* Eminem vs. Michael Jackson

* Britney Spears vs. Christina Aguilera

* Notorious B.I.G. vs. TuPac

* Van Halen vs. David Lee Roth vs. Sammy Hagar

* Axl Rose vs. Bob Gucciano Jr.

* Sting vs. The Police

* Toby Keith vs. Dixie Chicks

* Jerry Lee Lewis vs. Chuck Berry

* Alice Cooper vs. his bandmates

* John Kay vs. Steppenwolf

* John Fogerty vs. Stu Cook

* Busy Signal (ALLIANCE) vs. Sean Paul

* Beenie Man vs. Bounty Killer

* Mavona vs. Vybz Kartel

* Easy E vs. Ice Cube

* The Eagles vs. each other

* Simon vs. Garfunkel

* Sonny vs. Cher

* James Brown vs. Joe Tex

* John Lennon vs. Paul McCartney

* John Cale vs. Lou Reed

* Debbie Harry & Chris Stein vs. Frank Infante, Nigel Harrison & Gary Valentine [ members of BLONDIE]

* Liam Gallagher vs. Robbie Williams

* Michael Jackson vs. Janet Jackson

* Michael Jackson vs. Paul McCartney

* Dylan vs. Donovan

* Nirvana vs. Pearl Jam

* Roger Waters vs. David Gillmour

* Pink Floyd vs. Syd Barrett

* Ringo vs. Stuart Sutcliffe

* Eric Clapton vs. George Harrison

* Jay Z vs. Nas

* Glen Danzig vs. Henry Rollins

* Madonna vs. Mariah Carey

* Psychic TV vs. Chris & Cosey

* KMFDM vs. Depeche Mode

* Ray Davies vs. Dave Davies (THE KINKS)

* Chris Robinson vs. Rich Robinson (BLACK CROWES)

* Blur vs. Oasis

* Lance Bass (N'SYNC) vs. 50 Cent

* Sleater-Kinney vs. The Decembrists

* Scott Wieland vs. all former bandmates

* Mushroomhead vs. Slaves On Dope

* Martin Rev vs. Alan Vega

* Tina Turner vs. Ike Turner

* Lynyrd Skynyrd vs. Neil Young

* Carrie Underwood vs. Wynnona Judd

* The Smiths vs. Morrisey

* The Killers vs. Fall Out Boy

* Dwarves vs. Queens of the Stone Age

* Dave Grohl vs. Courtney Love

* Nirvana vs. Guns n Roses

* Ludacris vs. T.I.

* Radiohead vs. Coldplay

* Brian Jonestown Massacre vs. Dandy Warhols

* Tommy Lee vs. Kid Rock

Here's a post from the E! Online forums, "Rock and Roll Feuds of Fame", which is apparently re-blogging a post by Daily News Critic-At-Large, David Hinckley.


When Simon and Garfunkel were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1990, Paul Simon drolly suggested the Hall might consider a special wing for all the inducted groups whose members didn't get along with each other.

Besides the obvious reference to his own ups and downs with one time partner Art Garfunkel, Simon noted the Everly Brothers, who didn't speak for a decade after Phil smashed his guitar and stormed off the stage at Knotts Berry Farm in 1973.

Simon also mentioned the fractious Eagles, several of whose members were around that time doing separate tours. (Drummer/singer Don Henley would finish his version of "Desperado" by saying, "Accept no imitations.")

Simon's point, in any case, was that creating memorable music has never guaranteed creating internal harmony. So it isn't surprising, then, that some of rock's finest will carry their issues to the stage at the Waldorf-Astoria, where the class of 2007 will be inducted tomorrow night.

That class prominently includes Van Halen, whose consecutive main lead singers, David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar, get along like Sunnis and Shiites.

A few years ago, when Hagar sang "Panama," a VH number Roth first sang, it prompted Roth to comment, "I always thought that song should be sung by a girl."

Elsewhere among tomorrow night's inductees, the Ronettes broke up in the '60s and fell out of touch for years. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five splintered not long after their first hits, and various members ended up in court over custody of the name. Flash won and says they get along okay these days, but lead separate lives.

Matching some of the Rock Hall's legendary big chills won't be easy, though. When the Beatles were inducted in 1988, Paul McCartney didn't come, saying in a statement that since he was in litigation with George Harrison and Ringo Starr, it wasn't appropriate. (Harrison started his acceptance by joking, "It's unfortunate Paul's not here, 'cause he's the one who had the speech in his pocket.")

That same night in 1988, Diana Ross didn't show up for the Supremes' induction because of her long-running feud with Mary Wilson.

Drummer Levon Helm of the Band, who for years hadn't gotten along with lead songwriter Robbie Robertson, reportedly came to town on induction night in 1994 but couldn't bring himself to show up.

Members of the Impressions did show up in '91, using their speeches to say the others didn't belong.

But the Hall's peak feud moment may have come during the 1993 induction of Creedence Clearwater Revival, whose lead singer/songwriter, John Fogerty, didn't get along with bass player Stu Cook and drummer Doug Clifford. (The fourth member, Tom Fogerty, had died.)

John Fogerty, Cook and Clifford posed for pictures early on and offered pleasant generalities about the band. Only then, Cook and Clifford later said, did they learn Fogerty would be playing CCR songs without them.

So they left.

Zal Yanovsky, the late guitarist of the Lovin' Spoonful, said after their 2000 induction that he could understand how these old irritations could resurface. "Within 10 minutes of sitting down to dinner," he said, "it was exactly the same as it was when I left the band [in 1967]. All the old dynamics came right back." Still, Yanovsky added, it wasn't hard to be civil for one evening.

The night McCartney and Ross didn't show up, Mike Love of the Beach Boys gave a semi-famous speech in which he sarcastically asked, "We're talking about harmony, right?"

A few minutes later, Bob Dylan was inducted. "Peace and love and harmony are important," said Dylan. "But we gotta have forgiveness, too."


And on the Jamaican music scene we have this: "Busy Signal doctors Jamaica's ills with harsh medicine".


... it’s almost impossible to say when the Mavado vs. Vybz Kartel beef of 2006 and 2007 began, nor is it necessarily productive to do so.

Suffice to say it had its root in the mother of all dancehall clashes, the never-ending combat between Beenie Man and Bounty Killer that stretches back to the early ’90s.

As Vybz Kartel moved towards a solo career outside the Alliance, his friendly relations with Beenie were interpreted as disloyalty by the Bounty Killer camp. Mavado took up his mentor’s cause and disses flew back and forth on the Power Cut, then the After Dark riddim, coming to a head with the release of Black Chiney’s Drumline riddim which featured both “Mofraudo” by Vybz Kartel and Mavado’s return fire “Mr. Palmer.”

Lyrical war spilled over into the streets and by January 2007 shots were fired at both artists, both denying rumors and newspaper reports that they themselves had been the triggermen. Things got so bad that fans with no direct relationship to the artists were caught up in violence with each other based on their musical allegiance.

On February 28, Kingston’s Deputy Commissioner of Police, Mark Shields, called a press conference with the two deejays, publicly declaring an end to the beef and appealing to their respective fans to cool things down.

Nominally a gesture of unity, the moment was recognized by many dancehall fans as an absolute low point in the relationship between reggae and reality.


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